Angel Investing


Let's get started. I want to extend a warm welcome to everyone joining us today. We'll be delving into the world of real estate investing, a subject that my good friend of over 20 years, Rahul, is incredibly passionate about. Today's session will be an interactive discussion, with Rahul primarily sharing his insights on how to approach real estate investment. So, Rahul, it's fantastic to have you here, and I truly appreciate your participation.

To our audience, we encourage you to actively participate by sending in your queries through the chat. We'll address them as they align with our conversation. Rahul, an expert in real estate and an Intel engineer, will provide more insights about himself shortly. But first, let me briefly introduce our platform, Xillion.

At Xillion, we're constructing a platform aimed at accelerating your journey toward financial freedom. If you're wondering how to enhance your 401k, we've got a product for that. Connect your accounts, and we'll provide guidance on how you can potentially accumulate an extra million or two over the next 30 years.

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The icing on the cake? We provide mentoring from experts like Rahul who have honed their skills in their respective fields for over a decade. These mentors offer their wisdom and guidance, helping you learn from the best.

So, to sum up, we offer all this and much more at Xillion. Check us out at Xillionapp.com. And remember, we are recording this session and will share it on YouTube. We invite you to be as interactive as possible. With Xillion, you can keep your finances on track by investing less than 10 minutes a week. You don't need to become an expert; just follow a mentor, and you're set.

People like Rahul are integral to our platform. They're here to guide you in areas they excel in. So, I urge you to follow Rahul on Zillionapp.com.

Based on a quick poll we conducted, it appears that most of you are keen to understand how, when, and where to invest. These are areas that Rahul will delve into deeply. There's also significant interest in understanding the steps of investing in real estate. We'll be addressing these areas of high interest throughout our conversation. With that said, let's hand it over to Rahul.

Thank you for the introduction, and I'm thrilled to be a part of the Zillion family. Let me give you a quick background about myself. I'm originally from India and have been living in Arizona since 2001. I moved here for my Master's in Electrical Engineering. Coincidentally, Gagan was at ASU around the same time, and we were roommates. But our friendship goes back even further as we share the same alma mater from our bachelor's studies.

I'm an engineer by profession and by passion. I've been working at Intel for almost 15 years. I adore building things, which is why I find joy in my job every day. Alongside this, I'm an active real estate professional and investor. I assist people like you who are interested in investing in real estate or buying your own primary home. I also invest in real estate for myself, holding long-term investments in Arizona and Virginia.

Moreover, I believe in diversification for financial success and freedom. I have stock ownership and mutual fund investments, which are more passive forms of investment. I look to Zillion as a platform to aid me in that direction.

I'm fortunate to have a supportive family who are involved in my real estate journey, providing feedback and helping me make progress daily. That's a brief introduction to my background.

Now, why did I choose real estate? There are several reasons. First, I firmly believe in the long-term investment potential of real estate. This belief is rooted in the osmotic learning from my parents, particularly my father, who is an architect and an engineer. Their investment in real estate and the dinner table conversations about it solidified my belief in real estate as a pathway to financial freedom and success.

I also wanted to diversify my capital. The timing was right in 2011, as we were coming out of the 2008 recession. I took a calculated risk and started my first investment in real estate. I saw the long-term potential, and I was ready to take that leap.

While I had a full-time job, I also had unlimited skill – the ability to analyze data and understand the ins and outs of real estate. This, along with the teachings from my parents, helped me enter the real estate business.

Knowing Rahul for a long time, I've noticed that people excel in areas they love, and Rahul loves real estate. It stems from his family background. Everyone's journey is unique, so rather than trying to mimic someone else's journey, we encourage you to look within, find your strengths, and double down on what you love. If not, follow a mentor.

**Understanding Real Estate Investment**

For many of us, the idea of venturing into real estate can be daunting, but it also holds an enticing promise of wealth and financial independence. The key to navigating this potential is understanding the principles behind it and recognizing that not all debt is bad.

When it comes to investing, debt is often seen as a negative term. However, it's important to differentiate between good debt and bad debt. Good debt is the kind that allows you to improve and generate money, often used for investment purposes. Bad debt, on the other hand, drains your resources. A perfect example of this is the debt-to-income ratio, a key concept in real estate investment.

Imagine a scenario where your household income is $200,000 and your annual mortgage payment, car payment, and credit card minimum payments total $25,000. Your debt-to-income ratio would then be 12.5 percent. But, if this ratio is less than 40 percent, you're essentially leaving money on the table.

Why? Because a lower debt-to-income ratio opens the door for more property investment opportunities. Banks will happily lend you money until your debt-to-income ratio reaches 40 to 50 percent. And with real estate growing at 3-4 percent per year, leveraging the bank's loan can increase your returns on investment capital significantly.

This brings us to another important concept - leveraging. The only reason I've been able to grow my real estate portfolio is by taking on debt to build assets. This leads to passive income generation, leverages home equity, and increases the income column, effectively lowering the debt-to-income ratio.

Moreover, real estate investment offers a host of intangible benefits. It's a safer option, providing a hedge against your other investments such as stocks, mutual funds, and gold. Property typically appreciates over time, sometimes at high rates, and offers substantial tax benefits including deductions and depreciations.

Furthermore, real estate investment is accessible to everyone. You don't need a degree or a significant initial down payment. All you need is a team of experts you can rely on and a strategy that aligns with your financial goals.

When it comes to choosing the right property, focus on desirable macro locations – areas close to schools, hospitals, and commercial activities with future growth potential. Seek out properties with a positive cap rate and always take advice from industry experts.

However, avoid properties with major existing issues or potential liabilities, such as pools or problematic vegetation. Be cautious of properties that are larger than needed, as they might not yield the return on investment you're aiming for.

Two things I would, uh, you know, actually double-click on. One is building relationships. That doesn't happen overnight. It probably happened over, for you Rahul, over many many years, right? You cycle through a few handymen before you found the right one, you cycle through a few, you know, like assessors or inspectors before you found the right one. So don't underestimate that time investment as well.

For example, the inspector which I use for my homes and I always recommend to my clients is the guy who inspected my first house. So, I've known him for like 10-15 years. So that's a relationship that I've built. Same with the handyman, same with a plumber or electrician. I know them not just professionally but sometimes even beyond that. Even as simple as my landscaper, I've known him for 18 years. If I have something which needs to be worked on in my rental home, I don't have to worry about him not going. I just text him and he's there. He fixes it and sometimes he charges me, sometimes he does not. Sometimes, I have to prod him to take that money for the value he brings to the table. That's because I've created a relationship with him. So that's really important.

And by the way, this spreadsheet that you see, we have a version of it but we will have an enhanced version of this so you can actually quickly make a decision and see if an investment makes sense for you. So by next week, you will have this in Xillion. If you log in and plug in a couple of numbers, we'll show you exactly how things work and if something is worth pursuing or not.

Great. I've told you all the good things. Now, I've made some bad decisions also which I want to share with you. Some of my worst decisions have been following, you know, sight-unseen investments. I have, at the beginning of my investment journey in real estate, invested in unseen properties. In this case, I invested in the land which at that point in time sounded like a great investment to be in but I didn't do my due diligence of looking at the land, trying to see the layout, trying to see the recurring costs associated with it, and I lost a lot of money. Thankfully, last year I was able to sell it off and get away from that constant bleeding of my resources or my money. But that was a bad decision.

So, you know, never buy a home that you haven't seen. Emotions over logic, you know, don't let your emotions overcome the logic. This is an investment and you want to make sure it is giving you the positive cash flow which you're looking for. If your emotions are taking over the logic, think twice. And, you know, sometimes, like I said, use a sounding board and don't let the emotions go with the logic. Lock too much capital. I have had investments that have locked too much capital and that's come to bite me because I've had future investments which I could not do because my capital was often locked in while investing. That's where the debt-to-income ratio plays in. I was not able to take more debt because a lot of capital was locked in. I didn't have money for the down payment and that's why I wasn't able to invest.

**Trusted but not verified.** All of us are human, we trust each other. I trust people I work with. But you've got to verify. It's always good to trust but you want to make sure that you are verifying what is being told to you. Always be the devil's advocate within yourself to make sure that whatever is being told, you verify yourself.

**Delayed evictions.** Like I said, I've been involved in evictions in the past and one of the things which I did wrong was delay the evictions, thinking that the rent is going to come in. I trusted my tenants to give me the rent but I did not verify the situation enough for me to really start the eviction process early. That came to bite me. The silver lining to that was I got to know what the eviction process was, but again, I lost a lot of money in that.

**I did not move with the market.** This is specifically for if you have rental homes. The rent rates have gone up. Did I increase the rent based on the market? I did not. That came to bite me because my ROI was not what it should be.

And the last thing, which is a big thing, is **no exit strategy**. Anytime you go into an investment, you always need to think about what your exit strategy is. When would you want to get out of that? Is it five, seven, or ten years? Or what happens if the market goes down, are you going to get out? So think about the exit strategy. It's always good to write it down, note it down. What are the things which will make you exit out of that investment? So, having no exit strategy is something that I regret and it jives with the first bullet. I did not have an exit strategy for the land investment which I did and that came to bite me.

So, a real estate investment caters to every budget, allows different appetites, is an income-producing asset, easy to start with. You don't need to get a degree to invest. It provides huge tax benefits and creates value consistently over time. I can say that for sure because I've invested for the last 10 to 15 years. So, if you ask me, there is no reason for you not to invest.

I would highly encourage, and you know, Xillion is a platform where you can go in and get the first tips on what to do and where to do it.

**Trust and verify.** Rahul is trusted... I've known Rahul I don't know, since '95, a long long time, you know, 30 years and he's trusted and verified.

So if you don't want to spend the time, the next best thing you can do is partner with someone who spends the time and you provide the capital, or at least say 50-60% of the capital, and the other person provides the rest of the capital. That's what I did. I bought a property in 2014 and I partnered with a realtor friend of mine. Again, I've known him for 30-plus years and he lives in Virginia. I didn't know the market, but we pooled our money and he was the eyes and ears on the ground. I was the half partner in terms of capital, and we got 15-plus percent returns on that property when we sold it earlier this year.

So if you are not, like I was not, willing to spend the time, I didn't even, I couldn't even spend the time because the property was in Virginia, but you know, he was an expert and he did that. So find a mentor. Param is that mentor's name, he's also a Xillion, Rahul is on Xillion. If you want to get a taste of real estate investing and you are not ready to jump, like you know, both feet in, but you want to partner, we are more than welcome to partner with Rahul.

Great. A couple of questions. Thank you so much Rahul, this was very informative. I learned something new every time you open your mouth, so thank you. A couple of questions. Chanchil is asking,

**What's the difference between primary home versus investment home ROI?**
I'll give you my quick 10-second thing, I don't think a primary home is an investment. The primary home is something you buy to enjoy and you know, raise your family, and I'll let Rahul take it from there.

That's absolutely right. I mean, a primary home is not fetching you any income, so it's not an investment. Your investment is something that fetches you income on a consistent basis. So primary home is not, you know, a lot of people think primary home is an asset, it is not, because it's not fetching your income. What you invest in as an investment home, where you have income being generated, is what an investment home would be. And if you have a primary home and if you have that debt-to-income ratio which allows you to take a segway and buy more homes, for all intents and purposes, go and do it.

Correct, any other questions, feel free to unmute yourself, ask your question, we have a few minutes, please.

What is the difference between single-family and multi-family homes and what is the right strategy for multi-family homes? It's mostly like duplexes and multiplexes where you have a single tract of land and you would have two or three units or a four-unit place. The ROI for multiplexes is bigger than a single-family home, there's no doubt about that. But at the same time, you're dealing with multiple tenants. The ROI typically, if you look at the cap rate, sometimes goes beyond 10 for multi-family. For a single family, it generally lies between five to ten percent. So that's the difference, a tangible difference. And I do recommend multi-family, but again, you have to understand that you'll be dealing with multiple tenants, which also means you will be dealing with multiple vacancies, multiple evictions, things like that. When a situation like that happens, it's always good to have a property manager. I think there was one of the questions on whether it makes sense to have property management. Sometimes it does, especially in the duplex or multiplex situation. In fact, I'm in the process of getting a multiplex for one of my clients and the ROI when I looked at it, I was like, 'This is huge.

I did see a question that talked about paying down your primary home mortgage. I would not recommend it unless you have a very high-interest rate. Use the debt-to-income ratio and leverage that to buy more investments. Use that good debt to buy more investments as opposed to reducing your mortgage for the primary home. That's one of the decisions which I did not have here. I locked all the capital in by paying more towards my primary home and, as a result, didn't have the capital to invest.

**Purchasing a house in a high-interest market with limited inventory,**

**Limited Inventory:** When the market inventory is low, it's useful to work with real estate professionals who might have access to listings that aren't yet public. You can also directly reach out to homeowners in the area you're interested in to see if they're considering selling their homes.

**High-Interest Rates & Rising House Prices: Despite these conditions**, you can still make a successful investment if you're able to secure rents that justify a positive ROI. Even if you're buying at a high price and with a high-interest rate, if you're generating positive cash flow every month, it can be a good investment. Property appreciation over time can also yield substantial profits.

**Benefits of setting up an LLC for real estate investments.**

This can be beneficial mainly for liability protection. For example, if a tenant in your property had an accident and decided to sue, having an LLC could protect your personal assets from being involved in any legal disputes. However, to ensure the LLC provides this protection, it's important to keep its finances completely separate from your personal finances. You can either buy the property in the name of the LLC or transfer the deed to the LLC after purchase.

**Tax Benefits:** Investing in real estate can provide several tax benefits such as deductions and depreciation benefits.

Thank you, I appreciate all the great questions and the opportunity to share my insights on real estate investment. It's a pleasure to work with such an engaged and curious group. If you have more questions, or if you're interested in getting started with investing, don't hesitate to reach out through Xillion. I look forward to possibly working with some of you in the future. Thank you again for your time and I hope you all have a great day.


Real Estate Investing


In today's discussion, we are going to delve into the fundamental principles of investing, the comparison between 401K, IRA, and Roth accounts, as well as the importance of understanding and optimizing these accounts. We'll also explore the significance of rolling over old 401K accounts and the benefits that come with it.

To top it off, we will discuss how to effectively optimize your 401K by eliminating high-fee funds and replacing them with low-fee alternatives. Additionally, we will examine ways to maximize your employer contributions and highlight the necessity of rebalancing and resisting panic-driven decisions, which is admittedly challenging for all of us.

Now, let's delve into the principles of investing. The first rule to remember is that compounding is the king. We all, at some point or another, harbor dreams of getting rich quickly, only to realize that wealth accumulation doesn't happen overnight. As Albert Einstein once declared, compounding is the eighth wonder of the world. By investing early and continuously, you can harness the power of compounding to expedite your journey toward financial independence.

Next, we will look at the cost of funds and investing in trading. It's always in your best interest to keep costs low, and this can be achieved by choosing low-cost funds for your 401k portfolio. We will walk you through this process in the latter part of our discussion.

Taxes are a certainty in life; they support the upkeep of our nation, including the military. But, if there are legal ways to optimize your tax payments, it's certainly worth exploring, and we will show you a few ways to do that.

Keeping it simple is always a good strategy. Every account you create and each investment you make consumes your precious time. Hence, it's essential to keep things simple, focused, and scalable, allowing you to dedicate your time to what matters most.

Moreover, maintaining a steady course is essential. Market fluctuations, bank failures, and economic recessions are all part of the investment journey. What's important is to stay on track, keep investing, and periodically rebalance your portfolio.

Now, let's talk about compounding, a simple concept that's often hard to grasp due to its slow nature. It doesn't happen overnight, or even over a year—it takes a considerable amount of time. Let's say you start saving $22,500 annually, which is the annual limit for 401K set by the government, and invest this amount in a low-cost S&P 500 fund. By the 18th year, you would have a million dollars in your account, even though your actual contribution would be approximately $400,000. That's the magic of compounding.

If you continue at this pace, assuming the 401K contributions don't change, you could accumulate more than $3.5 million over the next 30 years. The power of compounding lies in allowing your money to grow over time, and the longer you let it compound, the better the results. After about seven or eight years, you will begin to see your compound growth surpassing your contributions. Thus, staying invested for the long term is crucial.
By popular demand, we're going to tackle a topic many of you have expressed interest in the difference between 401K, Roth IRA, and other retirement accounts. When asked, many people believe the maximum they can contribute towards their retirement accounts pre-tax and post-tax is $22,500. However, the reality is that an individual can contribute up to $80,250 in tax-advantaged accounts for their retirement. This probably comes as a surprise, but let's break it down.

First and foremost, your priority should be to maximize your 401K contribution. For 2023, this amount is $22,500. The primary advantage here is that these contributions are tax-deductible. So, for example, if you're in the 30% tax bracket, a contribution of $22,000 could save you $5,500 in taxes.

Second, you should figure out how much your employer will match on your 401K contributions. Some of the highest-paying companies, particularly in areas like Silicon Valley, offer up to a 50% match. Companies like Facebook, Google, and Microsoft are known to do this. With a 50% employer match, your contribution can climb to $33,750.

Additionally, if your employer allows it, you can contribute up to $66,000, which is the federal maximum allowance for all 401K contributions. This amount includes both your contributions and your employer's. After accounting for these, any remaining portion can be put into a post-tax 401K. This is a strategy I've used for years, and it's a great way to add another $33,750 to your post-tax 401K. This brings the total to $66,000, the maximum federally allowed 401K contribution.

But there's more. Even if you have a 401K, the IRS still allows you to contribute $6,500 into a post-tax IRA account. If you're married, your spouse can contribute the same amount, even if they're not working. This adds another $13,000, but even for an individual, it's an extra $6,500. Now, you're up to a total of $72,500 in contributions.

Lastly, if your employer offers a Health Savings Account (HSA) and you have a high-deductible health insurance plan, you can opt for an HSA. You can contribute another $7,750 per household to your retirement account through your HSA. This brings the total to $80,250.

In conclusion, by following all the rules and regulations, and being proactive and informed, you can contribute up to $80,250 towards tax-advantaged accounts for your retirement.

In this next section, Prahlad is going to explain how you can convert post-tax 401K contributions into a Roth IRA.

Both post-tax 401K contributions and traditional IRA contributions are made with after-tax money, meaning you've already paid taxes on these funds. These can be rolled over into a Roth IRA, which offers a significant advantage: you won't owe taxes on the growth of these investments. If you left your money in a traditional IRA or post-tax 401K, you'd owe taxes on the earnings, but in a Roth IRA, all growth is tax-free. This tactic is commonly referred to as a backdoor IRA or mega backdoor IRA, depending on the amount you're rolling over.

However, it's important to note that this process does involve some paperwork. When you roll over funds, you'll receive a 1099-R form from your account custodian, which will need to be reported on your tax return. There's no additional tax to pay since you're rolling over, but the transaction becomes part of your tax records.

Now, let's talk about pre-tax vs. Roth 401K. Pre-tax 401K contributions are tax-deferred, meaning you don't pay taxes on the money today. Instead, you'll owe taxes when you withdraw the funds in retirement, with the withdrawals counted as regular income for that year. This is why it's termed "tax-deferred": you're deferring your tax obligations to a future date.

On the other hand, Roth 401K contributions are made with after-tax money. Whether you contribute directly to a Roth 401K or rollover funds from a pre-tax 401K or IRA, you've already paid taxes on the money. This means you won't owe any additional taxes on the growth of these funds, even when you make withdrawals in retirement.

Choosing between pre-tax and Roth contributions can be tricky. It often comes down to comparing your current tax bracket to what you expect your tax bracket to be in retirement. If you expect to be in a lower tax bracket in retirement, it may make more sense to defer your tax obligations with a pre-tax 401K. Conversely, if you expect to be in a higher tax bracket in retirement, you may benefit more from a Roth 401K, paying the taxes now to avoid higher taxes later.

However, predicting future income and tax brackets isn't an exact science. It can be beneficial to diversify by contributing to both pre-tax and Roth accounts. A mix of pre-tax and after-tax contributions can provide a hedge against future uncertainty, providing you with tax flexibility in retirement.

In the next section, we are going to explain the differences between post-tax and Roth contributions, and then he discusses the different types of investment accounts and their tax implications.

In terms of post-tax and Roth contributions, the primary difference lies in the income limits set by the government. For Roth contributions, there is an income limit beyond which you cannot contribute directly. However, post-tax 401K contributions don't have such income limits, assuming your employer allows post-tax contributions. While the government initially set the income limit for Roth contributions to assist lower-income earners, a tax loophole allows anyone to roll over funds from a 401K or IRA to a Roth IRA, essentially bypassing the income limit. This is known as a backdoor Roth IRA. There has been discussion in Congress about eliminating this loophole, but no action has been taken yet.

Prahlad then breaks down the differences between various types of investment accounts, namely:

1. **Regular Brokerage Account:** Money is contributed after taxes have been paid. Growth is taxed and if a dividend is received, it's taxed in the year it's accrued. There's no separate tax when selling assets; you only pay tax on the growth.

2. **Tax-Deferred Account (like a 401K or traditional IRA):** Contributions are not taxed because taxes are deferred. However, when you withdraw money in retirement, you will be taxed on both the growth and the original contributions.

3. **Tax-Advantaged Account (like a Roth IRA):** Contributions are made with after-tax money, so you've already paid taxes on these funds. The growth and withdrawals are never taxed.

4. **Triple Tax-Advantaged Account (like an HSA):** Contributions, growth, and withdrawals for qualified medical expenses are not taxed. However, some states like New Jersey and California do tax the contributions and growth. If you don't use the money for medical expenses, after a certain age, you can take distributions just like a 401K, but these will be taxed.

The key takeaway is that the type of account you choose can have significant tax implications, and it's important to consider these factors when planning for retirement.

In this part of the conversation, we are going to discuss the benefits of rolling over old 401(k) accounts and the choice between rolling into a new 401(k) or an IRA.

it's essential to roll over old 401(k) accounts when changing jobs. Leaving money in old 401(k) accounts can lead to lower returns due to the change in the management of the funds once an employee leaves a company. This can happen because the deals between employers and 401(k) providers like Schwab, Fidelity, or Prudential change when an employee leaves, potentially moving the funds into less advantageous positions.

Also, managing multiple accounts requires time and attention, which many busy professionals don't have. As a result, these old 401(k) accounts often get neglected, leading to suboptimal growth or even losses. Therefore, it's recommended to roll over old 401(k)s into a new account, either the 401(k) at a new employer or into an Individual Retirement Account (IRA).

The process of rolling over a 401(k) is simple. You need to contact your old 401(k) provider, instruct them to sell all the assets, and send the checks to your address. There won't be any tax issues as the money is moving from one tax-advantaged account to another. Once you receive the checks, you can deposit them into your new 401(k) or IRA.

As for choosing between a 401(k) and an IRA, we think 401(k)s are generally less stressful because they require fewer decisions. However, if you want more control over your investments, an IRA might be a better choice because you can invest in individual stocks and ETFs. Prahlad also points out that 401(k)s have bankruptcy protection, which is an additional advantage that IRAs do not offer.

In this part of the conversation, the speaker is discussing ways to improve 401k returns. He criticizes how investment options are presented in typical 401k accounts, asserting that investment firms often make the selection process unnecessarily complicated to benefit themselves. This complication can confuse individuals, making it difficult for them to make optimal investment decisions.

He uses an example to illustrate his point, comparing two different funds within a Fidelity 401k account. The first fund, a target-date fund, had returns of 8.6% over ten years and an expense ratio of 0.75%. The second fund, an index fund, had a significantly lower expense ratio and higher returns (12.95%).

The speaker points out that despite the second fund's better performance and lower fees, it is not necessarily promoted as the better option by the investment firm. This, he suggests, is because the investment firm stands to gain more from the higher fees associated with the first fund.

Xillion is a service that simplifies the investment decision-making process. Xillion provides clear comparisons between different funds, highlighting factors like returns and fees to help individuals make more informed choices.

The potential long-term impact of these decisions with a real customer example. By investing $30,000 properly over 30 years, the customer could see a substantial increase in their total savings, highlighting the importance of informed decision-making when it comes to 401k investments.

In this portion of the conversation, the speakers discuss various aspects of maximizing your 401k returns and investment strategies.

**Maximizing Employer Contributions:** The speakers emphasize the importance of taking advantage of any employer match on 401k contributions. This is essentially free money that not only increases your retirement savings but also grows due to compounding interest over time. However, they caution against front-loading your 401k contributions if your employer matches a specific percentage of your salary each month. In such cases, you should spread out your contributions throughout the year to maximize the employer match.

**Rebalancing and Not Panicking:** The speakers discuss the importance of staying invested and not panicking during market downturns. They suggest that if the market drops more than 10% in a month, it might be a good idea to invest more, as you're likely to come out better in the long run.

1. **Employer Contributions for Moving Countries:** The speakers advise that moving countries shouldn't impact your 401k investments. If you leave the U.S., your investments will still be waiting for you when you return. If you plan to settle in another country, there are no known disadvantages to keeping your 401k investments as they are. In fact, withdrawing your 401k prematurely can lead to penalties and tax obligations.

2. **Management Fees:** They strongly advise against paying a 1% management fee to bankers, arguing that most money managers can't beat the S&P 500 over a 15-year period. They recommend investing in broad market indices like the S&P 500 or in American growth companies for long-term growth.

3. **Withdrawal Strategy:** The speakers briefly touch on the topic of withdrawal strategy during retirement. The choice between taking lump sum withdrawals versus regular income can depend on factors like your tax situation at the time of retirement. They suggest that they are working on a tool to help with such decisions.
